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Sandy you crack me up! Thanks for the laugh.

His band is probably as bad as it gets. But you get free air.

Julian: saying "one red cent" when talking about cheating a bunch of Lakota people seems sort of insensitive .

He wants to attract people in so he can have a crowd there to film a scene in a movie. 

I live within walking distant of the Rodeo grounds and I will not be attending his show. He’s the guy that took advantage of Native Americans when filming, ‘Dancing with wolves’, he didn’t give them one red cent for using their land, he snubbed at them!

When he has to raffle prizes and then force people to stay until mid-night for a chance to win a boat that tells me he needs gimmicks to attack people in, that doesn’t say much about him! People will be coming in for chances to win and not so much to see him perform!

Is his band any good?

This sounds like it will be a blast! Something real fun and relevant for the entire family to do on Friday Night!

Question in regard to the movie, will the voting machines they use be PAPER OR PLASTIC !?!!!!

 

Hello Everyone.

Daniel Trujillo here.

I am just letting you all know that my band

ANTS HAVE VOICES

With Eleanor Carbett and Dave Vise

will be playing in Albuquerque at

Ned's Downtown

Friday

July 29

7-10

If you can make it down, come downtown, to "Ned's Downtown".

Allie Shaw and crew (Edgard Rivera, Andy Click) and all the volunteers (jenny Gamble, etc) did an absolutely AWESOME job of organizing and executing this event. It branded New Mexico and Santa Fe as a place where this type of event could actually happen smoothly and without breakdown. Perfection is never going to happen, and now they have the learning curve to fine tune next year's event; let's support this effort and we will find the ways to make this a totally great thing for everyone, residents of the area, concert goers and bands. Thank you Allie and hats off to the great crew!! KEEP ON ROCKIN IN THE FREE WORLD!

Poor Bill, bought a house by a race track and dosent like noise. LOL I'll bet he complains about the birds in the morning too. Muzik Fest 2008 - Bring it On. Woohoo!

I'll be writing a post-Fest story about the concert's effect on the neighborhood, compliance with county conditions etc. Neighbors of the venue (pro or con) are encouraged to call me at 986-3068 to comment for the story. Thank you.

What a hardship the neighbors must have endured to have to hear a little far off noise for one weekend. 

***eyes rolling***

People who decide to live next to airports, or parks, or race tracks shouldn't expect to live like they are in some remote mountain cabin.  If this music festival is successful and grows in coming years it will be good for Santa Fe.

Sandy, rock and roll isn't about age, it's about attitude

By Diane Rivera
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Congratulations Shawn! You did it and Good Job. Many Thanks for your hard work- looking forward to next year.

NEXT YEAR------ HOPE NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A 54 year-old listening to a 59 year-old rocker? Some people have some growing up to do.

As a neighbor of the Down, where can I get a permit to blast the %^&% out of my radio all next weekend?

Seems we neighbors have no say about the loud noise.

For next year I would like to see more in terms of the electronica genres and more punk rock music. The television coverage of the event was pretty sad looking but I suppose staging the seperate stages better would aleviate that problem. Yesterday's SFNM picture of a bunch of pre-teens lining the front of the stage made it look like a children's only event.

There could have been a lot more vendors and more art-type areas given the space.

Overall, good job... Organizing these type of events is always a learning situation (I used to organize large rock shows in San Francisco).

Bravo!

I went to this 3 day event, looking to enjoy myself immensely. A veteran of the 2 "newer" Woodstock events I had (of course) huge expectations. While bands such as the headliners definitely delivered, the festival was more of a local band extravaganza.

As I strolled around, talking with different festival goers, there was a common theme. Everyone was very angry with the sound crew. Bands were going on late because of soundchecks between sets. More over, the bands were not allowed to play longer. Hence, a 1.5 hour set turned into a 50 minute set for some bands. I talked with one promoter of festivals in the El Paso area, and they told me that all soundchecks should be done earlier in the day, before all gates are open. So one suggestion I have for next year's festival....have a more organized sound crew.

Also, from what I saw...the venue was setup in a very odd way. It seems the organizers could have arranged the stages better, What I mean is, one thing I noticed is that even though a lot of people showed up (especially for the headliners - naturally) The area looked empty. I understand they positioned the stages to accommodate the noise flow and such, but still could have done a better job. Again being a veteran of two modern Woodstocks, many Lollapalooza's, and numerous three day summer music events from when I lived in NY I have seen alot of these type of music events. I feel, as I have seen previously, if they placed stages near back to back (one facing one way - one facing the other - near each other....they could ahve had a common area in between, consolidated the fan area, and made it "appear" to have a "sold-out crowd." Appearance is key at these festivals. If people see that the place is packed, no matter what, they will deem it a success. I can tell you personally, when I showed up for the Saturday afternoon lineup I was utterly shocked. I thought to myself, "Wow - this is not good." Why because of the sheer lack of "perception of population."

So enough bad...on to the good. Shaun and the rest of Kaos...my hat's off to you. You delivered the impossible to an unknown little corner of the world....and you did it with style. Being its first (and I hope of many) years, the Santa Fe Muzik Fest delivered what it promised....A 3 day music festival for the ages. Next year's product, I am sure, will be better and stronger, and bring more fans out. I can not wait to see what the 2008 festival has in store...Is it to early to campout for tickets now?

It looked like a good line up. My only concern was that yesterday's photo showed such YOUNG kids lined up at the front.

Congratulations Shawn! You did it and Good Job. Many Thanks for your hard work- looking forward to next year.

W21 is a great drug-free place for kids to kick it. Give them all the $ they need.

I think it's a great idea to have a music festival! The public need to go out and support programs like these.

Many middle- and high-school music programs in Santa Fe don't have the resources to be competitive.   Because competition is what school music programs are all about...

... the district has a task force examining what else can be done.   Yes, its quite conundrum.  What CAN be done?   Let's set up a task force; that's certainly easier than Doing something concrete.

The money also will help pay for trips to festivals and workshops, the fun part of band that attracts members...    Because just playing music is such a drag, right?   What's wrong with this picture? 

The faux-seriousness of this story would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.  First, take all creativity out of school music programs and turn them into a military drill.  Then, remove all the money from those music programs.  Then, stand back and marvel that students don't want to participate. 

So, where can I find the schedule of who's performing when?

Schedule is available  at the link in the related links box. Enjoy the music1

I like that he and others have set up an informal code of ethics to allow for fair play amoung buskers.  Really cool to read about.

I think music around Santa Fe is great, especially if it is Northern New Mexico music.  Let's spread the music around all over Santa Fe.  Music makes people happy............we sure need this especially in this day and age when people are always pissed off about something or other.

Let 'em play, sing, dance. Let the artists art, too…Les(luvsanarchy)

Hey, Stefan....I wasn't able to play it.  Are you providing entertainment for the meet-up.  Hey, going to send you an email to make you aware of something.

PC, here's a present for you:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=65259490

It is Ants Have Voices to listen to and to download.

You see, I bought a pair of 300 Gig drives to set up a mirror on this stupid PC. (I can't imagine that I'd want to recover all those boxes of ripped CDs.)

along about the end, well, after 250 some Gigabytes, I was into music of local artists that weren't listed on CDDB or Gracenote, or the one that Microcruft keeps. So I did a google search for Jack Clift hoping to find a page with an album cover on it.

I found that Jack Clift had been fired from Santa Fe's "Music in the Plaza" program. Now Jack Clift is a weird young fellow, a guitarist who has a tendency to hop up and down as he plays. It looks like he is playing guitar on a pogo-stick. But I first met him while he was playing for "Orange Blossom Special" a C&W dance band which is very famous up here in Northern New Mexico. The search brought up this link.

http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/1836.html

That [] upset me somewhat. So I did what was necessary to be able to comment on the stupidity of what had happened (a couple of years earlier, while I was out driving 18-wheelers around the country.

And that brings us up to today. Remember, this all started because I couldn't find an album cover for Jack's 1993 album. Thanks to "The New Mexican" for finding the link I need for "On a bright, bright morning".

For some reason Jack and his friends call their type of slow soft music (with some rock&roll drums) "Alternative Folk". They are the only ones who know what that means. It sounds like folk music with some surprises thrown in every so often.

In fact, it's a lot like "Cowboy Junkies" except that Jack doesn't sound like Margo Timmins. He does have a little Jack Palance or Mel Torme in his voice. That wasn't there on the first album, but he's a bit older these days. No more pink hair, none of those old "Blind 'em with the appearance, and then you can get through their ears to their heart..." stuff.

So, I downloaded the three albums on the site that the New Mexican referenced, burned an mp3 disk, and listened to it. It was all 128k stuff, so it will be much better on a disc. And it looks like I can buy two of the three plus the cover so I can buy three new Jack Clift CDs. (I don't live close enough to come hear him play at Fiestas. You twits did invite him to play at Fiestas, didn't you?)

Just ask him to play some of his songs off his albums. They are soft and sweet, and you will not regret it. As for me, my money is in the mail. I think that tells you how much I like his music. But, I've never bought an Opera disc, so that should tell you a little about how I choose. I would have been driven off the Plaza by Opera Music, (or John Phillip Sousa, for that matter.) I listen to a lot of Alison Krauss, Linda Ronstadt, Laurianne Fiorentino, and Orange Blossom Special, and of course, Lawyers, Guns, & Money... (Love it when the Judge plays that pedal steel...).

hmm

Cool! But everytime I click on to the next page, the same page of "A"s pops up again. I clicked on page 19 and that page ended with Jenny Bird. Couldn't get to the Cs and the rest of the alphabet.

Odd. I can replicate the experience; a programmer and I will get right on it; thanks for letting me know!

Red Green - I remember the Planets!!! Ahh...the good old days!

Do you remember when it was the Apache Night Club? That was long before the Line Camp. I remember there was great entertainment - Asleep at the Wheel, Los Lobos, Willie Nelson, Don Williams, and one time s pseudo-Chippendale act - pathetic smelly boys with farmer tans - it was hilarious. What was even more hilarious was the long line of men waiting in line at the door when the show was over hoping for some over-excited women but finding nothing but women, like me, swearing this was the first and last time at a men's strip show! Greg, I too remember a road - Los Alamos Prom, 1959 - there was breakfast in the mountains near Los Alamos and afterwards we all piled in a car and ended up in Santa Fe - straight down as the crow flies, not around through Pojoaque or Jemez. There are also stories of all the suicides up there - lots of "mountain climbing accidents". I remember one time being totally straight and seeing a wingless airplane going through the canyon - very fast like a jet but no noise like a jet - There were several of us that saw this. We should start a newsgroup to discuss these fun things.

Oh hell yes, I remember the Line Camp. Saw Asleep at the Wheel there, among others. Good times. Even on week nights. Who played in the Planets?

Hi, gang,

Long as we're trippin down memory lane, does anybody remember The Planets? And the Line Camp?

PC, I can't tell secrets (that haven't been revealed yet). But one of the scientist I knew from way back then, told of something very much like the stealth bomber and one of the 2,000 MPH planes now disclosed. He has since committed suicide. His wife had a good story for that, but still -- I wonder. Did he blab too much to the wrong person?

I'll say this, I have never felt endangered by the Soviet Union, and don't feel particularly worried about state terrorist, particularly N. Korea. I fully suspect they can be deleted in just minutes, without nuclear bombs.

On the other hand rogue terrorist are a real threat. You'd be surprise at the number of hidden cameras watching the beach and other areas 24 hours a day here. Also, strange people in wet suits mysteriously surface in Pearl Harbor and other places and dissappear again before being apprehended. I'm not sure what this is all about, but it is a bit worrysome.

I also worry that N.Korea might launch a nuclear missle attack on this island without warning if they ever feel desperate enough. From what I hear, we are in their range. But I don't lose sleep over it.

People used to worry that the USSR would fire nuclear missles at Los Alamos and Albuquerque. I wasn't bothered, and I figured they would be so inaccurate they would land of the gazebo in the Santa Fe plaza. If this were to happen, I figured, my TV would go on the blink, as it always does when something major happens, and I'd miss the whole thing.

PC,

I too, would love to hear those stories. I think Greg should spill the beans.

Well Greg lives in Hawaii and they should be unsafed. Besides, just like the logging trucks, I never said it was true, just something that I heard. Greg can tell us what he heard or was told. I bet there is all kinds of theories from back then.

Secrets! Secrets! Suspense!

Greg,

I think you remeber very well and I am sure it was there. I think the secrets that LANL keeps are safe with my Dad as well, because I know nothing about his years there. He has been debriefed just like all the rest.

Tell the secrets Greg, pleeeeze. What are they going to do? It's been fifty years.

Chew:

I have been bothered by the absense of a bridge all my life, and sometimes wonder if I didn't actually cross one and just wasn't paying attention.

I agree somewhat with your Dad. A road without a bridge wouldn't be much of a route.

On the otherhand, this was in the mid to late 50's and it is possible they just never got it built. Also possible, I just overlooked it. In any event, I'm not sure that it would have cost millions of dollars. (but perhaps in today's money adjusted for inflation).

I do know I left Los Alamos on the south side in a forbidden area, it appears, since I was never let back in, and I did end up on Agua Fria. I also remember looking at a map at the time and there was no such road.

Maybe I was abducted by a flying saucer and given a false memory, but I doubt it.

Tee Hee. How can an old fart like me remember stuff about roads -- when I forget where the hell I set my keys?

Here's some approximate and recent chronology:

Before the Caja del Rio Road was built, all the usual wheeling and dealing went on to guarantee profits for the right people. Most of the land on the east side of that road -- opposite the golf course -- was given to Bruce King and his wife as a swap for land they own over by the Rio Grande. They've been making the buck$ off it, ever since.

The reason for the swap -- and still part of the original layout for "The Relief Route", Highway 599 -- describes a spur route leaving 599, just northeast of 599, and proceeding north and crossing the Rio at White Rock. That's the real "relief route".

Sounds like a commercial for Ex-Lax.

Greg,

I asked my Dad, who was a chemist in Los Alamos for many years and this is his response:

"In order for a road like that to exist it would require a bridge across the Rio Grande and that would be a major project costing millions of dollars. Nothing like that could go unnoticed by the general public. So I conclude that it is just a great yarn someone concocted..."

Here is my answer: "I disagree...those people in Los Alamos are wierd secretkeepers.."

Chew, I think this was at least 50 years ago, and I do not recall a canyon, nor crossing the Rio Grand, althought that river could well have been dried up at the time.

Nothing I see on my internet map looks right. All I remember distinctly is where I got on the road and where I ended up, and even this is vague now.

I think I came out somewhere just east of the airport. Perhaps around where I think Ed Campbell lives. I recall taking a trip north and found a rifle range up there somewhere, and drove over the river which was dry then, and getting stuck in the sand. I managed to get out and came back.

Also seems I came out somewhere in the neighborhood near that nursery north of Agua Fria closer to town.

The map show numerous roads now that I know were not there then. So I just don't know what to say about it. Perhaps it is covered by sand and dirt now. I do recall some one in Los Alamos telling me there was an emergancy exit from the city, but that could have been anywhere.

I think I must have gone about half way between Bland and White Rock.

Los Alamos has many other secrets I haven't mentioned and probably shouldn't because as of yet they still haven't been made public even after 50 years. If they have been perfected, I'm sure everyone in the world would be absolutely stunned witless if they knew, including most of the people that have worked in Los Alamos most of their lives.

Greg,

That is insane. I am guessing that it goes somewhere close to Diablo Canyon. Does that sound right? I wonder who else may recall that road. Those damn Los Alamos secret keepers!

For us XM subscribers, XM 51 will be broadcasting Bonnaroo Jam music (past and present) starting today.

Not playing.

How are doing Stephan?

doin Ok, thanks! you? hope youre enjoying it out there... feel free to give us a report!

Hey everyone. I am in Tennessee right now at the Bonnaroo Jam Band Music Festival and I am looking forward to the this weekend with all the great memories of last year's.

I want to thank all the people who went to the 2nd St, Experience Benefit this past Sunday, and supported both the Festival to come and Ants Have Voices music.

Happy Thusday everyone and have a great weekend.

Dan, are ypu playing there, or just listening?